Stop Bayer’s stranglehold on American Farmers

You spitting out this ignorant misinformation is why it’s so difficult to educate the public. What you have described with two similar species DNA, getting together to create offspring is called hybridization. Seed sales prior to the gmo transition, was all about creating seed varieties through hybridization. Seeds were already being naturally bred for higher yields, draughts resistance, stronger stalks, etc. All through natural mating.

It’s a lie that gmo’s are the same process as hybridization. It says it right in the title, GENETICALLY MODIFIED ORGANISM. You’re either ignorant, or lying by spreading the misinformation that you are.

Natural HYBRID varieties DIE when sprayed with roundup. GMO’S don’t die when sprayed with roundup.

Hope you learned something new today.

WOW first off, you don’t need to be so rude to anyone, voice there opinions here, we are posts ideas on this matter, not here to insult someone, intelligent or not, your our of line here.

There’s no 3rd party independent research going on in America, as there is in Europe that’s why.

And any college or private “research” labs, ag schools are being funded by Monsanto. So what kind of results are you going to find if you want funding to continue to flow?

Monsanto has whole departments of employees whose job it is to spread confusing false narratives and company line rhetoric, EXACTLY like the post I’ve responded to. It’s been known for decades, and finally come out as evidence in the trials Monsanto has been losing.

Do deliberate lies and misinformation to mislead the public bother you?

If so, wise up and join the right side. No one misunderstands the difference between gmos and natural hybrids seeds with that much specificity and counter narrative. You got a lot to learn on this subject. And if you really are concerned about the subject you can stop being a sucker, and realize this is how corporate interests protect their markets.

You ever see the movie THEY LIVE?

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So I wonder who you work for? I’ve seen these sly always long comments to distract and dissuade newcomers from ever grasping the difference between gmo’s and hybrids, and confuse newcomers that gmo’s and hybrids are the same and “more research” is needed.

How much is Bayer paying you to be here?

Because your posts are the most elaborate and directed ways of saying you have no idea what you’re talking about. But that’s exactly why you’re here, to muddy the waters.

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Yes and rather than break them up as a monopoly let’s just pass a bill that permanently disallows them to take advantage of any subsidy locally or federally. Then tax them for not taking care of our soil. We could then take that “Bayer Act Tax Revenue” and send it as a subsidy to small farmers who are fully engaged in regenerative farming. They could navigate bad weather circumstances, buy new equipment. If and when companies like Bayer, Archer-Daniels-Midland Company, Blackrock, Syngenta, and Bill Gates Cascade Investment do get their act together then we end the tax because the small and medium farmers will absolutely be thriving like Mother Nature provides for us to do.

Boomers sure do love their subsidies!

A problem for RFK Jr. He says he will end GMO…

You have way more patience than I do for handling what we both know is a for hire misinfo specialist.

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I am learning about them as I run across them in here. There are definitely types who put up volumes of text on specific subjecs in order to “keep things from moving ahead”, yet show little real participation by offering policy suggestions on things outside of that narrow band of resistance they demonstrate.

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But who decides who is rightous and who is not? We can’t even figure that out with “gadjets”.

But, regardless of the gene-twiddler’s intent there needs to be an independent UL-type that does the testing that proves no one will get sick or die eating it.

Which goes for a every other thing foisted off on the public. Independent testing, not manufacturers “testing”. Treat EVERYTHING that goes in your body as FOOD and test (by the FDA, costs paid by the manufacturers) accordingly.

And here we have the solution folks… wants things to be tested in UL like fashion by the FDA for safety. :rofl:

Are you getting this folks?!

Encino man got thawed out yesterday has solved it! We just need to test things for safety at the FDA!! HAHAHA

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The more things change…the more they stay the same! Kinda sounds like the Congressional playbook for another chapter of “Let’s Keep This Going Another 100 Years.”

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BINGO. Winner winner chicken dinner

Well, I hope we can all work it out. Everyone certainly can’t be pleased all the time, but if we can make strides into getting back to our Constitutional roots, allowing others to live in peace, not being adversely impacted by others (esp. Corporations), and clear out the deadwood of 100+ years of legislative restrictions, and garbage-generating overly-expensive depts, agencies, and institutions, then the quicker we might find out that we are all in this together, taking turns rowing the same boat, and desiring to get to roughly the same destination. :us:

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I’m guessing these are all GMO seeds. I think the GMO seeds should all be destroyed. and we get back to heirloom seeds, only.

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It took me a good year or more to go all the way down the rabbit hole, to fully understand gmo’s, the subsidy prison, glyphosate/roundup, and THEN when you finally get your head wrapped around why farmers stay locked in to farming this way imo is mostly because of subsidy.

After learning all this, to then discover the scope and scale of malevolence of Monsanto is impossible to communicate concisely.
Fun fact, Monsanto started losing cases in 2019? Not only did they lose cases, but plaintifs were awarded MALICE, on top of the verdict. Something that is rarely awarded. The case losses are starting to stack up too aren’t they, but last I heard they have yet to pay out one dime.

I am familiar with some of this but you apparently have more in-depth knowlege on these corporate agri-giants and their shenanigans. Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for creating policy suggestions that might back them off the American People and stop them from criminally manipulating our political system for their own personal gains. If it was me, and I was trying to take down these Goliaths, I would target all of the work/inroads that they already accomplished, cementing their way into our legal system. What were their legal battles? What propositions did they fight? Who did they get caught buying gifts for, or who did they support running for ag-related officials. They are like nasty GMO trumpet vines that grew into the side of the house of the American People – it needs ripping out at the very roots that support it. OK, getting off my soap box now…lol.

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You seem really easy to entertain. You must have really enjoyed the DNC convention. Have some good times over the holidays!

Useless waste of time and energy. It might make you feel good for a day or so but in the meantime we aren’t making progress on fixing things. Maybe it’s because I am 81 and would really like to see some progress before I leave this can of worms. I vote for progress over revenge any day.