Valerie, Toby is also making a valid point. Expansion of existing catagories is not a significant addition of function to the agency or the government…it is more of a further clarification of dramatic and publically broadcasted behavior.
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You see? This is the PERFECT AMERICAN APPROACH to resolving this issue (IMO). I thought as much when I first saw the policy proposal. And you just now reiterated that notion. I think all we need here, is to be warned ahead of time that the content contains material that might be objectionable to some. Personaly, I would like to have the control to digitally “set it and forget it” when it comes to material coming into my home. Simply go through a list, and click yes or no…the digital receiver does the rest. That is probably what should be happening here (and with all content). Let the American People decide what is OK within their home – not some govt agency or external “nanny”. And for those fiscal sorts – not to worry…we can claw back some of that Israeli and Ukranian weapons support – that should fund it for about a 1000 years, give or take. Thanks. 
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https://discourse.dev.poweranalytics.com/t/no-more-family-movies-with-homosexuality/22019/51?u=sugarling
“… And certainly nobody is entitled to a “free” society that conforms perfectly to their values. When your personal values deviate from the baseline, it is your job to set up your life in such a way that your values can be honored in your home. Nobody else’s.”
That’s actually exactly what people are requesting the ability to do with this policy, by the way, wanting the objectionable-to-them material kept out of general audience entertainment so they can live by their own values in their homes without being excluded from all entertainment material.
General Christian morals ARE THE BASELINE in this country. The ‘silent majority’ has been far too accommodating, peaceable, understanding, permissive, and more lately intimidated, drowned out, silenced, and flat out ignored. That does not mean they’re not the majority. And that sure as heck does not in any way make THEM the “deviants”.
It’s no one’s business to say what goes on between consenting adults in their own homes as long as they aren’t hurting others. No one has to approve, but they have the right to be safe and to exist, unmolested. As usual though, that thin end of the wedge of a reasonable thing (like don’t hurt people for being gay, etc,) has gone way too far into glorifying this stuff and cramming it down everyone’s throats as ‘the new normal’ that no one else consented to.
The left has taken the bull horn and been shouting down any dissenting voices until they’ve convinced a lot of people that how things are now is the norm and has always been that way. This is not the norm and never has been. Tolerance has given way to demands that we accept, then embrace, and now even glorify homosexual and trans material and behaviors. Everything these days is drowning in homosexual and trans stuff. You can’t see even a commercial without it in your face, much less in the movies and tv shows. It’s creating a false representation of reality. Not everyone is gay or trans. Not everyone is okay with it either and, guess what, they’re allowed their opinions also. You are not required to want to see it or to want your impressionable children to see it either.
Far from the implication that these objections are frivolous, religious people (upon whom this nation is founded) have very sincere obligations to God that are not optional. The rules of a Christian life are not in our hands, they are in God’s hands, and we can’t change them just because others might wish we could. Many things have been overlooked and tolerated out of kindness, meekness, weakness, we could debate about that. And look where that’s gotten us. The fringe of society got the tolerance they wanted, okay, but now to the point that they’re taking over and the talk is moving on like we’re the fringe and have no rights.
Isn’t it strange how this democracy thing (here in our Republic) is pulled out when it’s convenient for one side and forgotten when the other side has a point?
Dissent is not hate, no matter how many times people say it is.
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As a Libertarian and a Constitutionalist, I find it difficult to counter this post…so I won’t, no matter my personal views on the matter. Your words are well placed. This is why I gloss over policy proposals with the word “BAN” in it. I think I’m done commenting on this one as well.
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Toby,
The OP used language such as, “no more,” and “should not be allowed.”
Regardless, we already have systems for this. The private sector is more than capable of handling this, and already does, with content reviews and family ratings, independent of government oversight and regulation (and the taxes we’ll pay for them to do it).
With freedom, comes responsibility. The government has extremely few uses, and it’s past time to push the monster back into its (very small) box. Keep concerns like this in the personal realm, or, at the VERY least, keep it local.
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Less. Government. Regulation.
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It’s not extra regulation.
It. Already. Exists.
I’ve seen movies on these channels that show those relationships. I can tolerate them if it’s secondary characters but not if it’s the main characters in the movie. However, I do not have kids. If I did, I would not want young kids watching even the secondary characters in same-sex relationships. I don’t think it’s appropriate on “family” oriented networks, but evidently some people think differently. What’s even worse is that I’ve heard that Disney is incorporating this into some of their children’s programs.
These programs should be rated PG-13. It’s not suitable for young children WITHOUT PARENTAL GUIDANCE. If you chose to let your kids watch it, that’s up to you to teach them whatever you believe about the relationships. Some of us believe kids should remain innocent as long as possible. If the issue arises in a real-life context, we can teach them to love the people even if we disagree with what they are doing. But let them learn when it’s necessary and not from a “family” oriented TV program or movie. We can’t ban them, and the ones on these channels are not pornographic, but the can be rated PG-13 with a label warning that it’s same-sex relationships and then the parents can make a choice - and the rest of us also won’t be surprised when we are 30 minutes into the movie and it shows two same-sex people who are obviously in a dating relationship.
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Revamping ratings would be great.
Maybe we just need a symbol for everything that needs to be disclosed, rather than a blanket identities They already do that to a certain extent on streaming movie sites.
Language, Sexual Content, LGBT, Vulgarity, Gore, Violence, etc.
This gives everyone a heads up, and an opportunity to watch with full disclosure or pass it by.
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This is supposed to be policies for the people, not turning your personal problems into policies.
As a gay guy, when I opened my email and your post was the first one in the summary, do you think I wanted to see that? Where’s my X rating to protect me from this nonsense??
Same-sex couples are the same as opposite-sex couples: humans with lives and love and stories who share it with someone else… You can have all the problem with that as you want, but it’s not anyone else’s problem. You paint yourself as “a victim of homosexuality” which just seems immature. If you can’t understand that gay people exist and gay couples care about each other, it’s because you lack some degree of humanity in yourself. You’re literally witnessing humanity in media and can’t handle it. You literally want a rating system to protect you from the human condition.
If you want media of only a certain kind, then follow specific directors, producers, or studios who only do certain kinds of work.
Gay people are a part of families, and therefore completely deserve to be on a channel like Hallmark, for example.
I’m gay and I NEEDED to see media with gay characters in order to understand myself and the world better, through reflection and contemplation. Gay depictions do not “modify” children — I figured out I was gay with ZERO depictions. It was just harder/slower/less self-reflective, until I was an adult and then saw so many interesting characters and stories which helped me reflect more into myself. Movies like Love Simon and Mario, shows like Love Victor and Young Royals, etc.
If you’d take away the opportunity for a kid to learn about themselves from media, that’s hateful. You clearly wouldn’t respect my childhood and what I deserved as a kid.
The only things we can agree on is that kids should not be exposed to anything sexual, and definitely not anything transgender, as that’s a social contagion that preys on lack of self-esteem, emotional wounds, mental illness, etc. (Anyone who thinks gay people and trans issues are the same thing have fallen for the Leftist-Liberal agenda trying to make them the same thing. They’re not. Many gay people are fed up with the transgender nonsense, most of all because it believes sex doesn’t exist and therefore neither does orientation, making it utterly homophobic.)
But there’s nothing wrong with gay content. If there’s a kid show that shows or suggests straight kids being together, then it can likewise show gay kids being together. Like holding hands or crushes. Disney-level stuff I guess, with teenagers or whatever. And there are “gay kids.” I was one of them, without any media “making me that way,” and without there being anything sexual about it. Kids can still have crushes and like a peer their age, and it can be gay or straight. (Orientation transcends sexuality. It’s about which sex we feel physically (and spiritually) comfortable with. Sexuality only comes online with puberty.)
As for family and adult movies, you’re just going to have to be a victim and avoid watching them if you don’t want to be reminded of the existence of gay people. Good luck with that. The idea that the average movie with a gay character or couple isn’t “clean” is a sick comment/perspective to have.
Gay people could say that we’ve had straight couples and heterosexuality shoved down our throats everyday — and literally since childhood — but how often do you hear us complaining?
The only way I’d support an expansion of the rating system is if, for example, it keeps sexual activity out of PG movie, regardless if it’s gay or straight. But homosexuality is not atomically PG13 or R or X just because it exists. Activity is what earns the rating, not existence. If gay couples are just holding hands or whatever, that’s obviously PG. There’s nothing 13+ happening. Kids can see adults holding hands or being together all the time. Gay or straight does not matter, unless a person has a problem with it, which makes it their problem, not the whole media rating system’s problem and not the problem of a Free Country.
Besides, there are already websites and lists devoted to gay movies, because gay people love to learn about them and watch them. Maybe you could just go follow those lists to “protect yourself.” Or you and your straight pals can make lists of “straight only movies.”
“Everyone has the right to do as they please just don’t make the rest of us have to watch if we feel it’s inappropriate for our families.”
Yeah, I’ll remember that oblivious double standard the next time a movie makes me have to watch straight people kiss, or pushes a regressive Christian agenda that would split families up just because a son or daughter is gay.
I love God and God has no problem with me being gay. Only people do, especially those beholden to fallen religious ideology.
The only other disclaimer I’ll make about this is that I’m also tired of all of the Leftist attitudes and “insertions.” If a character is going to be gay, it should be a realistic person with a meaningful plot. Not just to check off a box. Gay people are not fillers for an agenda. People are thinking that dumbed-down content is made for gay people to push on straight people but it’s not, it’s just a political agenda exploiting us to make its activists feel better about themselves. That Leftist stuff bothers me as much as anyone. But it’s not about homosexuality, it’s about invasive politics. The transgender stuff has nothing to do with homosexuality, and the only people who think it does are those who are brainwashed by the Leftist agenda: both the gay people and “allies” that subvert their own orientation and deny their own sex existence to go along with it, and also the “conservative” and “religious” straight people who don’t even realize they’ve fallen for the propaganda by distressing gay people. LGB ≠ TQ. Don’t fall for the political agendas.
The political agendas are the issue, both Leftist and Right. Another commenter wisely pointed out that Conservatism hasn’t been taken seriously because of its moral righteousness. I suspect many of us could agree that we want a country without the political extremism, just focusing on freedom for the people. I don’t want to see Leftist content anymore than you do. But I also don’t want to see Rightist content — nor an invasive Right regulation of media.
And maybe it’s worth reminding everyone Trump doesn’t have a problem with gay people, and a gay guy literally helped him win Pennsylvania.
Gay people are people too just like you — and sometimes we show up in movies. Sorry if Leftist activist cinema bothered you. Not sorry if my existence or the depiction of it bothers you.
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Many gay people care a great deal about God.
It’s just people like you who push them away from God because you can’t understand gay people … even though we’re just people like you.
It’s very paradoxical.
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Now you know how gay people feel, having had heterosexuality shoved down our throats since childhood!
(Netflix does have woke issues, but the point stands.)
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One thing you’re failing to realize is that not everyone in this country holds the same religious beliefs that you do. Your personal belief system doesn’t give you the right to shame and oppress the beliefs and opinions of others. As a free nation, everyone deserves to be represented in a modern society. I can understand removing anything sexually explicit or inappropriate from family media, but making the assumption that same-sex relationships are inappropriate based solely on your religious views is NOT how this country works. There’s a separation of Church and State for a reason.
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I agree I am sick of this woke shit. We need a woke disclamer on all movies so we can boycott all this garbage
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This isnt about religious beliefs I coudnt give to shis about your preferences. This about watching a show then out of nowere to guys going at it no warning it’s about pushing a agenda. I myself am boycotting anything containing gay or woke material not because of religion, because it’s trash
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No one is forcing you to watch any movies. I for one have no issues as long as it’s not inappropriate, and being gay is not inappropriate. There’s nothing wrong with being in a loving, healthy relationship with someone of the same sex. Dictating what can and cannot be seen just because you disagree with it is also wrong on so many levels. It breaks freedom of speech.
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Don’t watch it then. I don’t see the issue with homosexuality in family friendly movies/shows as long as it isn’t explicit. They’re going to figure it out eventually anyway, but until then it’s your responsibility as a parent to ensure they aren’t watching something you deem inappropriate.
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So, let me try to understand this correctly. Because YOU aren’t gay, being gay is trash? Does that same concept extend to your race, food preferences, favorite color, things like that? Like, if a show has a salad pop up on screen, do you flip your shit? Because you 100% peg me as a “Men only eat red meat and drink light beer” kinda guy.
Maybe “peg me” wasn’t the right turn of phrase. Might make you need a safe space. Seriously, you all sound just as bad as the liberals, whining because the media doesn’t present things your way. Simple fix? Don’t watch shit you don’t wanna see. Or? Grow up.
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Where’ve you been all this time 
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Well I was raised to be a man, and I try to avoid that filth. They are putting it everywere. I guess I’m getting old ,and men were men, and not flamingos prancing around. Also I do enjoy a good salad at least they are useful. I don’t care that your gay,or lesbian I could really care less your problem not mine.
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